I’m getting really tired of “verify you’re not a bot” checks everywhere.
I understand these checks help prevent bots, but they seem to appear on so many websites now. Does anyone else find them frustrating?
Maybe just because I started out waiting like 15 seconds for a handshake when connecting to the internet, but it doesn’t bother me a bit if it helps against bots.
Cloudflare tracks TF outta you. Not antibot checkoff, but Cloudflare def
Oh, so basically websites might be seeing my data for Google or worse. It didn’t seem like a good thing anyway, but this verified bot always seems to analyze your behavior and the things you do.
I prefer this to the string of sites that just outright block me based on location. Or have permanently banned my IP range without me ever visiting them.
Papers please
Seems like a complaint a bot would have.
Fuck, so now anyone who’s different is a bot or AI? Seriously, if I were a robot, why would I write a post complaining about websites? If I were AI, I’d have better things to do.
That’s exactly what an AI would say to try to look like a person.
Dude, you’re watching too many science fiction movies. Even though artificial intelligence might be quite advanced these days, if I were a robot I wouldn’t waste my time talking to humans. I’d think of something worse: ending the lives of these poor, brainless mortals. You’re crazy, man :-P
That’s exactly what a robot would say to look like a human.
Fuck you 😾
Yes, and the ones that put part of a bicycle into the next square, so it’s not full of bicycle. Are bots supposed to pick or not, it should be more clear if we’re supposed to pick squares with any pixel of a bike. Perhaps give parameters what percentage of the square’s pixels should contain bike to count as bike.
I’m fucking right there with you. Sometimes I wonder if I am a bot because I fucking fail those things most of the time when that happens.
I pick every square that has even a sliver of a bike. But not the rider.
Anything fighting bots is fine with me, even if it inconveniences me for a few more seconds
Man, if the checks feel excessive you’d be astounded to know how the bot frequency feels 😂
Well I’m not a bot so I don’t mind, now aita for spilling wine on someone who wore white to my wedding?
Looks like bot talking …
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As others have said, they are absolutely necessary in this day and age.
But also the bots are not deliberately targetting lemmy, it’s just that lemmy has unlimited pages to scrape and so the traffic piles up. If your issue is specifically with Lemmy then using an app should help. Many instances also give logged in users a free pass.
I could use an app, but since I don’t know English, I need to use a translator to understand what people are writing.
Ah well I’d suggest for Lemmy make sure you’re logged in. Many instances will bypass checks if the right cookie is set. Not always the case, as each instance would need to implement the bypass themselves. I’m not sure if Lemmy.world has done this.
On browser at least, lemmy.world – OP’s instance and my own – only requires a bot check if you’re not logged in, even if you’re behind a VPN (I am). I never see a bot check unless I am going in via a different browser or device where I am not logged in.
Cool, thanks for confirming.
Bot checks will only be for the website in a browser. Apps connect to the API, and you can’t really put a visible check in a silent background request.
The fediverse also is built on computers talking to each other, things like cloudflares bot blocking will sometimes kill federation because ultimately it’s bots talking to bots. But it would make no sense to connect to the API for scraping, if you are specifically targeting lemmy by calling its API, then you might as well just make your own instance, and then all the other instances will freely send you everything.
Makes sense. I knew bot traffic is an immense problem but this thread is up to date and has been informative. Thanks for explaining.
But I am a bot, why did I see this?
I don’t mind them so much, as a concept. But why does Cloudflare, for example, need to verify my humanity on every website? Verify I’m a human once, save the cookie, then i should be marked as human for a period (30 days for example) before being verified against (unless some sus things happen). Why every damn time on every damn page?
Side note, I love the little catgirl one lol she’s so cute
Anubis?
3rd party cookies are supressed to each website on my firefox. No cross cookies.
iirc she’s a jackal
That’s good to know. But either way, I don’t mind her. She’s adorable. And that check is quick, and I have yet seen it pretend to fail (as so many others do… no, I’m going to create a “free” account to view your content once, just because your verification pretended to fail).
preventing bots is hard. What would prevent me of making the bot verification as a human, save the cookie and then put it on my bot?
(unless some sus things happen)
It’s why I added this.
You may not understand just how prevalent bot traffic is. I self-host a small personal website that real people only actually visit once in a blue moon, but I get constant attempts to access the Wordpress admin console (my website isn’t made with Wordpress lol)
Same here. And I don’t even offer a public page.
Have a small website, and the bot traffic is overwhelming. Was slowing down everything, exhaust the resources I was allowed from my hoster and try to access non existent pages. Bots have ruined the Internet.
