- cross-posted to:
- pcgaming@lemmy.ca
- cross-posted to:
- pcgaming@lemmy.ca
So we are pretending. This is the truth, Rob. We as the industry are pretending we’re not using AI, but the reality is, it’s almost impossible to code now without using AI. Almost impossible. I mean, the efforts you have to go to extract AI from line completion stuff and from generative stuff is very challenging. So everyone, every title that’s come out in the last year has been using that, but we’re still able to not tick the AI box. AI is going to be, when it’s sorted out and not producing AI slop, it is the most… This is very controversial. It is the most, the biggest advance in creativity for smaller studios, for medium studios and bigger studios. The biggest step forward in creativity."
Uh huh. Sure there guy who keeps overhyping things and never releasing what was promised.



Especially for coding, AI agents are a game changer. They allow you to express your ideas more thoroughly and iterate on a design more quickly, allowing you to create a more sophisticated end product. I still don’t like generative AI for art assets but that’s a separate discussion to be had. Programming just gets better with an agent.
There’s a huge difference between “It makes things a lot easier/better” and “Coding is impossible without it”… One of them you can argue is true. The other is an outright lie, and even he knows it.
Yeah of course it’s not impossible and I think we should keep developing personal coding skills because we need those to have proper judgement about what the clanker spat out. It’s just my 2c on the topic.
The main issue is. If companies enforce AI use (and many do), and/or they stop recruiting junior developers (a lot have), then we’re going down a road where soon (for values of soon) we just won’t have people with the skills to evaluate what they produce.
Worse than that, they can only improve if we provide the input for them to use to improve. Any future models are going to be consuming a mixture of human work, human curated AI work and AI slop, ever skewing towards the latter. I am not convinced the way these models work, they are able to tell the difference.
We might well have the best models we’ll ever have, right now.
Well yeah companies need a healthy mix of experienced and young employees and what they’re trying to save in expenses now will hit them straight back in their face a few years down the line. But CEOs don’t get paid to think about the future, the shareholders want their revenue right now. It’s stupid and it won’t change soon enough.
For training, I think you’re mistaken about how this works nowadays. Training doesn’t happen just from ingesting human written text anymore. For stuff like programming the models are trained by reinforcement learning with difficult tasks. This allows for much more targeted tuning without the need for a huge corpus of pre-written data.