I hope it isn’t democrats impeaching him, though. Let him rot for 2 years, let the GOP force him out, or let him leave on his own. Either way, democrats should not be the reason.

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The Republican Party is demanding that Mississippi election officials “separate and preserve” all provisional ballots cast in the midterms

Isn’t this a standard thing? These haven’t been counted yet, but will be if they can be validated or something.

I think you misread that. He wants to resign to start his bid for president for all the reasons you just gave.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he leaves the White House and gets a full massive pardon from Vance. For any and all crimes he might have done.

You’ve made convincing arguments in both directions. Now I don’t know what to think.

Plot note, many of the cousins would be the very same healthcare executives in need of killing.

Me neither

Then talking is just as pointless!

We’re random people talking shit on the internet. Of course it’s pointless.

That’s what I was afraid of. The phrase “nuke the electoral college” isn’t exactly true.

Maybe these states could put it up for vote as a state amendment or something. Getting buy in from the people would make it stronger.

And Texas… what would it take for a state to back out of this? I imagine if a state signed onto this, and their leadership changed back, it would just be a switch flip to undo it.

If you have better things to do than source your claims, you probably have better things to do than to make them in the first place.

Nope, I enjoy having conversations IRL and online. When I have a different opinion I try not to say “cite your sources or your wrong”. A lot of times 2 people just have different opinions.

Fact is, I could very easily find 5-10 sources, but you would likely just find some nuance that proves your point while ignoring all the nuance that proves my point. It’s pointless.

We are just 2 regular ass people that disagree with each other. It’s a miracle we found each other!

The perception of “woke 1” being bad is something I never once disagreed with. What I disagreed with was whether that perception reflected the actual reality of what the Democrats said or did.

I’m not really sure the point you’re making. Are you saying that democrats, either as individual politicians or colllective groups that represented the party, were not the ones peddling ideas associated with “woke 1”. Are you saying the ideas of “woke 1” in its entirety weren’t actually bad, but it was perceived as bad unfairly? Or are you saying something else entirely?

Christ, finally. The amount I have to twist people’s arms on this website to do the most basic homework to support their positions. It’s completely ridiculous.

I got better things to do with my life than to dig up sources to defend my opinion to a random person on the internet. As I said, I read plenty of things, news articles, lemmy articles and comments. There’s podcasts that I listen to. I am hyper aware if what I’m seeing is facts or opinions. I love polling podcasts as they are pure numbers and facts.

I do all this so when I need to have an opinion on something, I don’t need to spend hours “doing homework”. If I felt like I didn’t understand something and needed to research it, I would.

I didn’t know what “woke 1” meant, I googled it and found an article that seemed to validate exactly what I’m saying. “Woke 1” is not used as a good phase of the democratic party. Period. The end. That still not good enough for you? Fine.

Honestly, I feel like you and I are 75% on the same side here.

I didn’t want to have to google, but you made me. This article seems to be saying many things I am saying. Democrats went to far being “woke” and have chilled out some.

https://archive.ph/FLtUR

I don’t know what “woke 1” is

Politics is not always “hard facts” and sometimes it’s just “perception and feelings”. When I saw this meme I had a reaction based on what I have seen over the last 5-10 years. I am one person on the internet. Feel free to ignore me, but also feel free to recognize that I may be representing an opinion shared by many other people that are not commenting on this thread.

I see posts on here all the time and comments on here all the time that collect to give me a perception of the “community”. Along with talking with friends and family. And not only reading headlines about things a politician said, but listening to their actual words. It is not worth it to me to google sources for you for every opinion or perception I have.

You mentioned El Sayed as an example. I saw a headline yesterday praising him for not turning his back on trans people in his 60 minutes interview. I listened to that interview and didn’t hear anything particularly pro trans. He basically said the government doesn’t need to get involved. Which is a great opinion to have.

Do I feel like having it out with you about how “woke” he is as a candidate? Not really. Especially not when it doesn’t matter.

So what you are saying then is that everybody had beenwoke.

No, that’s not what I’m saying.

If Talarico and Hamilton had lost, you’d just say that it shows they were too supportive of trans rights

Lol, now you’re just making shit up.

As for El Sayed, I’m not saying everybody has gone full anti-woke. I’m just saying the Democratic party has chilled out in general. There’s gonna be exceptions.

So, in my opinion, this whole narrative is bullshit based on nothing but memories of perceptions.

Ok

Medicare for all would be huge.

Maybe if dems win 2028 and get 60 senate seats, they will create a bill to get money out of politics. I am weaving dreams.

I definitely don’t have time to go through a decade of social media posts and news articles, so the best your going to get from me right now is my memory.

Fact that candidates like Talarico and Hamilton were able to say they didn’t support trans people on the issue of sports without the wrath of the left ending their career is evidence the Democrats are no longer “all in” on woke. Newsom said exactly as much 2 yeas ago and was branded a transphobic bigot immediately. Even though he also said very supportive things of the Trans community in the exact same podcast and has done supportive things. To me, this reaction from the community was a problem. It didn’t help that he sucks in other ways, so nobody really wanted to defend him.

“remember when the Democrats defunded the police” when in fact police budgets were raised almost everywhere, it was just a perception that that happened.

Perception was based on comments by many people on the left supporting this idea. Both politicians and the community. No actual legislation came from this, but the stigma was left behind as a result.