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    I see, so far you have:

    • openly lied about what I said
    • openly lied about what you believe
    • supported imperialism against a race that you don’t like
    • supported ethnic cleansing of a race that you don’t like
    • supported the murder of a race that you don’t like
    • supported pedophilia against a race that you don’t like
    • condemed a race that you don’t like when they fight back against violence done to them
    • defended an imperialst
    • said that someone who openly said they voted for fascism, didn’t vote for fascism
    • refused to answer my questions
    • made up a bunch of stuff in order to deflect from what I’ve said

    Am I missing anything?



  • Oh, I think I do. You support the colonizers using violence against the oppressed, but you oppose the oppressed fighting back.

    I don’t know what white supremacy has to do with anything, but you do seem like a zionist-supremacist.

    I love how you have to keep attacking me by projecting your values onto me, instead of the addressing the things we’ve discussed. Go ahead, start defending any of the points you’ve made, instead of making up lame, and obviously untrue points.


  • I’m the furthest thing from a racial supremacist or a bigot.

    Yet here you are, defending the supremicists and bigots, and supporting their colonialization of another group of people. And when I say those people have a right to fight back, you keep telling me that I’m wrong.

    I’m pro humanity. I don’t want “Europeans” nor “Hindus” expelled from my country.

    But you want to keep Palestinians who have been expelled out their land, expelled. And you think that they shouldn’t be allowed to fight back.

    Dude, you’re on some murderous Tankie level. I’m not.

    You are literally supporting the people who used, and are using, tanks to murder people. I’m saying that they should just give the land back.

    We’re not the same.

    We’ve already been over this: I agree. I’m anti-imperialist, you are pro-imperialist.

    I want coexistence and you want more bloodshed.

    You seem to only want coexistence as long as the colonizers can keep opressing their victims.

    I don’t want bloodshed, but that’s for Israel to decide. They could just peacefully leave, and then there wouldn’t need to be any bloodshed. But they are the ones on the offence right now, committing the violence. I simply think that Palestine is in the right for fighting back against that violence.

    I love how you keep deflecting from me pointing out the consequences of your values, instead of addressing them.


  • You said they should be removed from the land and Palestinians can decide who to ethnically cleanse off their land.

    I think that the Palestinians should let them stay, but I think the decision should be up to the Palestinians. If someone broke into your house, took it over, and kicked you out, somehow, I don’t think that you’d be in favor of letting them stay. But you let your racism show, by saying that it’s OK when Israel does it to Palestinians.

    Bro… Peace Be Upon you and Pee Be Upon the Pedophile Prophet.

    I don’t know what that has to do with anything. You support a nation that is using padeophiles to attack their enemies, but when it’s some long-dead religious leader, then you have a problem with it?

    You don’t understand Islamic supremacist rhetoric.

    You are correct. But what little I know, I’m against. What does that have to do with anything? We’re talking about zionist (and The West’s) supremacist rhetoric.

    I understand both zionist bullshit as well as Mohammadism. Both are pos, evil supremacists.

    Agreed, which is why I don’t understand why you support one of them.

    I’m for coexistence. No, you openly are not. You keep saying that the colonizing imperialists should get to keep the land that they stole.

    You’re advocating for ethnic cleansing of Jewish people.

    Can you point out where I said that? Because just like the last time I asked you to point something out, I’m pretty confident that you won’t be able to. You keep putting words into my mouth, and attacking it. Why not just stay on the subjects that I’ve been talking about?

    We’re not supporting the same thing by any stretch.

    Of course not. I’m anti-imperialist, you are pro-imperialist.


  • You’re advocating for mass removal of people arbitrarily even though they were born on that land. That’s ethnic cleansing.

    Can you point out where I said that? Because I’m pretty confident that I never did. That’s what you are defending.

    Ethnic Cleansing: Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic, racial, or religious groups from a given area, with the intent of making the society ethnically homogeneous.

    I don’t care about making it ethnically homgeneous. I’m also not saying that we should force them out. I’m saying that the Palestinians should be allowed to say who stays and goes. But you said that Israel should be allowed to keep Palestinians kicked out.

    YOU are the one saying that the colonizers should be allowed to keep their ethnically homogeneous setup.

    I do not agree with anyone’s desire to carry out ethnic cleansing bullshit. I will never support anything like it.

    Well you sure seem eager to support it against Palestinians. You say you won’t, but I see you doing it right now.

    I will never support Sharia.

    Me neither, but I don’t see what that has to do with anything.

    I will never support a globalized “intifada”.

    I know, you are an imperialist, so that kinda goes without saying. I fully support uprisings and rebellion of the oppressed against the imperialists.

    Coexistence can happen. Only if the genocidal rhetoric is dropped.

    And who is the one pushing genocidal rhetoric? Oh, right, the colonizers.


  • Alternative is to expect an ethnic cleansing. I can’t support that.

    No, and I never said that. The alternative is the colonizers leaving the land that they took.

    How are we to figure out who’s deported? Where do they go?

    Let the Palestinians decide who is allowed to stay. The people that leave can get a chunk of land in Europe, or the US: The places that they came from, and caused the problem.

    I don’t support “remigration” in Europe or my country. Why should it be acceptable in West Asia?

    Palestinians didn’t support “remigration”, but we forced that on them with guns. Why should Palestine have to pay for the sins of the West? Make the people who caused the problem pay for it.

    There are generations born within Israel at this point. It’s disingenuous to boil it down to an occupation within 1 lifetime. 1940s seems ancient history to many in my generation.

    It seems disingenuous to say “well, we stole your land, raped, tortured, and murdered your family, but that was ages ago. Sure, a bunch of you still remember it, because you saw it with your own eyes, but why you gotta keep bringing up the old shit?”

    The solution isn’t to allow Eastern European colonizers be expelled or murdered.

    I agree on the latter. I disagree on the former.


  • That’s literally how many countries came into existence.

    Sure, but that doesn’t make it OK.

    We can not expect modern country called Turkiye to dismantle just because Central Asian people moved in and built on top on Byzantium.

    And how long ago was that? The Israeli occupation is literally within one lifetime.

    Israel exists.

    Yeah, that’s the part that I consider a problem.

    The solution to the problem isn’t to globalized intifada and jihad. It’s not sharia. It’s not privileged westerners converting to Islam and wearing hijab on tiktok as a protest.

    No, the solution is the occupiers leaving the land that they stole. Until then, Palestine has a right to defend itself.

    I respect your passion but I reject the premise that Bernie is an outright imperialist.

    If you don’t think that supporting empire makes one an imperialist, then I think you should read up on what imperialism means.




  • I love how Libs always downplay that she supported a genocide, and told people to sit down and shut up when voters brought it up. Or that she stood behind a clearly senile old man, who was clearly unqualified to lead. Or that she said Trump was too soft on Iran. Or that she offered no solutions to what the voters needed. Or that she said a highly unpopular President was doing a good job. Or a hundred other obviously bad things that she said and did.

    They always bring up things like her laugh, or that she was a cop, as if those were the deciding factors in any way.