AOC is my second favorite serving politician after Bernie, she would be a great President.
But I’m afraid that the Democratic leadership will squash her, as they did to Bernie. She’s pro worker, and the Ds abandoned labor long ago (and they were paid well to do so).
If she runs, I am voting for her, whether it’s with Democrats or DSA or Green.
DNC want to keep her away from Schumer’s senate seat.
Schumer is 76. He should retire. This is ridiculous, go out and enjoy your life. Advocate for AIPAC. Do something else.
What school of propaganda are you representing?
What part of your colon are you looking thru to see my comment as pro schumer?
Are you posting from tel aviv?
I assumed I was agreeing with you.
I’d sure rather vote for her than Harris or Newsom and realistically, idk who else is gonna run.
I don’t think she has a chance in the general if I’m honest. She won’t even make it to nomination. However it would help with the Overton window if she ran. We need someone in the race with no gray hairs who will speak truth plainly. It’s amazing how long it’s been since we even saw that happen.
Why not? Her policies reflect the will of the voters much more than the other mainstream candidates. Is this another one of those, “only a centrist can possibly win!” type arguments? Because every time we say that the centrist loses. If we skip the BS what you are saying is that only a pro israel candidate can possibly win, right?
The last Democratic president was a centrist who won the primary over a very well respected and credible, experienced, white male who was simply further to the left.
We can argue about it more, but I think you are just overestimating the “will of the voters.” I campaigned for Bernie in the primaries and then watched the boomers around me nominate Biden. I no longer have any illusions about the rest of the voters, but you apparently do.
Biden won because he had the scent of Obama on him. And no other reason. So I think you have come to completely wrong conclusions.
So people vote against all their own interests because of the scent of Obama? That’s nonsense, but even if it were true it would only support my point that voters don’t care about what you think they care about. The DNC sucks balls to be sure but the electorate truly can’t be underestimated.
Agree but she needs to do something national for sure. She’s able to pull an audience on your all over the country, she needs to be elevated beyond congress. I really hope we can start moving away from personality politics. Let the big personalities get people excited and let the good hearted boring folks do the work. Maybe I’m wrong it’s just that personality voids attract sociopaths. Not saying AOC is one but if we’ve learning anything we need big benches from the local on up not single person leadership. Also I am inherently becoming distrustful of anyone who gains internet fame or looks good on TV and I suspect many other ppl are too
Certainly true of Newsom and the other options advanced by the DNC.
let’s split the sane people’s votes so trump can win again. excellent plan!
This is in the primary, no vote splitting involved
Do you make the same claim when the DNC runs center right candidates year after year despite a large portion of Democrats constantly begging for more progressive candidates?
Ain’t happening. The US is too racist and sexist
Here we go again. Dems willing to lose everything to try to become the party to get a woman in the White House first. I’ve heard this story twice now, can they just stop until America is ready for it? AOC is great, but she’s way, way more useful as a senator right now than she would be as a president. We all the strong leftist senators we can get.
IMO this will hand the election to the GOP again. The democrats need to stop pushing unpopular women into the oval office. They want to get their landmark “first woman president” victory and it’s blinding them from actually winning the election.
I agree. I like AOC but she’s not gonna get the needed votes. I think realistically need a man.
You need a man to smack you upside your head for overt sexism.
Can you explain what you mean?
She is 37 and the youngest president was Kennedy at 43. Median age of elected presidents is 55. I would say give her a few more years.
shes the most popular candidate out there right now. she should run. the reason she will never win though, is because corporate america won’t let her.
From today’s NYT.
Some polls didn’t include all candidates
What a ridiculous methodology. There’s literally no reason to treat the results of this poll as even remotely truthful.
Post the poll that puts AOC leading.
sure, but make sure it includes all candidates please.
Post the link to the poll
It’s perfectly acceptable to just admit that the image you shared didn’t support your argument. This childish “prove me wrong” shit just makes you look like a troll.
America won’t vote for a woman America isn’t ready.
They definitely won’t vote for a woman if sexist pests like you insist on only nominating men.
Did I ever say that in my post retard?
This is a goofy position. You’re doing the patriarchy’s job for them. You better believe people said this same shit about Obama being black, and you also better believe that a lot of racists voted for him anyway (we know this to be true). In practice this sentiment is indistinguishable from saying that you personally do not believe a woman should be president.
I’m sorry I was in the military and know voting and genders and all this shit doesn’t matter voting is made up it’s a game to make middle and low class play thinking they have a say. Btw voted for Kamala. So fuck off you dumbasses calling me sexiest. Also voted for Obama twice asshole. Literally didn’t say shit just a sentence and you pull a whole opinion about me out your ass go fuck yourself.
People don’t understand that there are men on the left that don’t want a woman president. Even though the evidence demonstrates this.
Literally didn’t say that voted for Kamala I don’t think other people will I don’t know how everyone’s reading comprehension is this fucking bad.
evrytime a women ran for president they lost, look at hillary and kamala
Exactly it happened twice before can we give it time why do people have to force it. I literally voted for Kamala but I knew it was throwing it into the wind. AMERICA ISNT READY.
That won’t ever change unless women continue to run. Do you want it to change?
The real issue isn’t that we don’t want/trust a women to be president, Hillary won the popular vote and plenty of people voted for Kamala despite her never being the first kid to be picked for dodgeball. The issue I see is there is a contingency of liberals who are adamant that we must only elect a woman as president now.
I volunteered during Kamala’s campaign and came across this group, it was called something like a woman president no matter what. To this day I’m not sure if they weren’t some psyop group meant to make sure she lost or if this is a genuine group that believes we need to elect a woman whatever the cost. Problem is we’ve lost 2 easy elections by running women who just didn’t have any charisma (and like it or not the presidency is a popularity contest and the more charismatic person usually wins.)
Instead of forcing it every election and losing to literal monsters we need to just wait for the right one to come along. AOC might be that very person but shes probably still too young for 2028. Identity politics sucks going both ways and history has shown we can elect minorities and women to government without playing identity politics (minorities and women started getting elected to congress decades ago before all this virulent identity politics shit began.)
The path to hell is paved with good intentions.
And to remind everyone that these stubborn types exist in the liberal camp and can fuck things up when their ego’s are allowed to go unchecked just remember Obama tried to get RBG to resign when they could’ve voted in a suitable replacement that wasn’t an antique. She declined because she wanted to be a judge when the first woman president was elected, which never happened. Instead, her stubbornness and lack of hubris cost her one of the single most important rulings she ever issued and one that directly affected millions of women.
Oops. Look, we’re all human and we all make mistakes but the wise old judge is suppose to realize this in thanks to their wisdom. The more I learn about RBG the more I realize that humility isn’t a universal trait. Both political parties and all the factions within them would be wise to learn some humility. Forcing another bad candidate and cheering “yah for women you must vote for her” could cost them another election they could probably win.
That’s a whole lot of words just to tell everyone you are full of shit.
You’re talking about “Madame President PAC”, a Political Action Committee. Covering the 2025–2026 election cycle through June 2026, the committee reported only about $522 in total receipts and roughly $422 in total spending. It reported just $100 in cash on hand. They’re completely insignificant.
If you want to make up a bunch of nonsense to pretend that feminism has taken over the Democratic party, you’ll find plenty of like-minded sexists in the Republican party. Instead, I recommend that you self-reflect on your political ignorance, and try to shake that misogynistic attitude you’ve developed.
I’m gotta get downvoted and cause a stir with this. Here goes anyway for the all of 5 people it might reach.
I would love. FUCKING LOVE for a candidate like AOC to get elected president of the United States. Love it.
HOWEVER.
Until there is enough power transferred in the senate and the house to candidates that would remove the current structure of how we elect the executive office; they are not electable.
See, you read that sentence thinking what I said was an opinion and pessimism. It was not. It was based in the statistics of how Americans vote and how strong the votes in various states are in a first past the post electoral system that uses an electoral college.
As it stands, and Nate Silver backs this math as well, the electoral college requires a moderate democratic candidate to overcome a 3.7 point disadvantage. That might sound small. It isn’t small. It’s the margin of victory in many races so, you effectively need to more than double the current margin of victory for a candidate, and so it when further left candidates have a harder time than that.
Jeff Jackson could make a run for office in 2028-2032 and be a candidate that historically could get elected. Statistically.
AOC is just not electable in the current structure of the electoral college and state first past the post voting that still persists in most states.
You run the virtue candidate and lose the election.
The same was true of Harris in 2024. Not because we don’t deserve a black woman president or that she couldn’t do the job.
She wasn’t fucking electable in this racist, sexiest voting base.
I get we want better candidates, but you can go too far and effectively give the election to the fascist asshole, and frankly the country can’t have that happen again post Trump. It will be the end of democracy as we know it if It does.
I know that isn’t what folks want to hear but the math is the math.
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DSA is going to be too busy purity testing and infighting to support her publicly.
And when the DNC ratfucks that attempt as well, and coronates Newsome or HarrrisAgain, will you accept that the party is the problem?
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2016: Clinton (unpleasant creepy woman) vs Trump (worst human in USA) Trump Won
2020: Biden (unqualified white moron man) vs Trump (still worst human in USA) Biden won
2024: Kamala Harris (unqualified “half progressive” non white woman) vs Trump (still worst human in USA) Trump won
2028: AOC (progressive Latina woman) vs Any white republican, pos or not Republican will win
Clinton won the popular vote
I’ll support her and anyone she supports if she fails to secure the nomination for herself.
Newsome thanks you for capitulating early.
The more people who say shit like this now. The less difficult it will be to ratfuck her campaign, rig the primary, and coronate a donor-friendly Neoliberal ghoul. I’ll check back here in a little over two years and see how you feel about my prophecy coming true.
I promise to never think of you ever again.
Try again
See ya in 2028. I absolutely will say I told you so.
