All Hitler-lovers hate communism, but not all communism-haters love Hitler.
Depending on definition, you could say I “hate communism” (I hate violent authoritarian communism e.g. Leninism, Stalinism, and Maoism, but not Marxism), and I definitely hate Hitler.
Yeah you can definitely do the physical act of saying that you love nazi propaganda while disavowing hitler. It doesn’t make your position logical nor does it make you seem like less of a nazi.
Sure, the simplest explanation is that if you think Stalin was unelected or had unlimited power, or that Mao was a dictator for whom everyone contemporary to him unquestioningly followed, you fell for nazi propaganda. Stagnation breeds fascism, and when nazis cannot win, they will settle for stagnation; the easiest way to foster stagnation is to say that the extreme left and extreme right are the same, so we should pick a third way, a reasonable, moderate, centrist approach, that just so happens to set up economic and social tensions that can easily ferment into and have clever nazis foment fascism.
The Red Scare, which is what most of you tend to base your propagandized version of history off of without even realizing it, had exactly one purpose. Protect capitalism, and foment fascism. It has done immeasurable harm in the US especially, where it is responsible for more deaths directly than the totality of all wars fought by the US on every side combined, but more harm has been done to the minds of those that will repeat the premise of this propaganda, the core ideas, as if they were their own conclusions after reasonably and logically reviewing the ‘evidence.’
To tie it from ‘obvious the fascist CIA worked to take freedom and power away from the American populace on behalf of the capitalist class,’ to ‘the CIA are nazis;’ one merely has to consider the timing of Operation Paperclip, and the nazi sympathizers in the US government that were against fighting the war from the start; many of whom curiously later either joined the agency or were a part of oversight committees on the agency.
Sure, the simplest explanation is that if you think Stalin was unelected or had unlimited power, or that Mao was a dictator for whom everyone contemporary to him unquestioningly followed, you fell for nazi propaganda.
And I said none of that nor do I believe any of it, so is it safe to say you’re having a big fat juicy straw-man with the rest of your comment and I can skip it?
Is it also safe to say the implied attack on me that I love either that or Hitler is a pretty ridiculous way to enter this thread?
If i were in a room with both of them I’d shoot one (either) in the gut and then shoot myself so thag I wouldn’t have to suffer through being around the other.
If I was in a room with Hitler and Marx and I had a gun with two bullets, I’d shoot Marx twice.
Yeah, anti-communists tend to love hitler, you don’t have to repeat yourself so much.
All Hitler-lovers hate communism, but not all communism-haters love Hitler.
Depending on definition, you could say I “hate communism” (I hate violent authoritarian communism e.g. Leninism, Stalinism, and Maoism, but not Marxism), and I definitely hate Hitler.
Yeah you can definitely do the physical act of saying that you love nazi propaganda while disavowing hitler. It doesn’t make your position logical nor does it make you seem like less of a nazi.
… the fuck?
This some kinda silly obvious and intentional straw-man or are you going to follow it up with some kind of explanation?
Sure, the simplest explanation is that if you think Stalin was unelected or had unlimited power, or that Mao was a dictator for whom everyone contemporary to him unquestioningly followed, you fell for nazi propaganda. Stagnation breeds fascism, and when nazis cannot win, they will settle for stagnation; the easiest way to foster stagnation is to say that the extreme left and extreme right are the same, so we should pick a third way, a reasonable, moderate, centrist approach, that just so happens to set up economic and social tensions that can easily ferment into and have clever nazis foment fascism.
The Red Scare, which is what most of you tend to base your propagandized version of history off of without even realizing it, had exactly one purpose. Protect capitalism, and foment fascism. It has done immeasurable harm in the US especially, where it is responsible for more deaths directly than the totality of all wars fought by the US on every side combined, but more harm has been done to the minds of those that will repeat the premise of this propaganda, the core ideas, as if they were their own conclusions after reasonably and logically reviewing the ‘evidence.’
To tie it from ‘obvious the fascist CIA worked to take freedom and power away from the American populace on behalf of the capitalist class,’ to ‘the CIA are nazis;’ one merely has to consider the timing of Operation Paperclip, and the nazi sympathizers in the US government that were against fighting the war from the start; many of whom curiously later either joined the agency or were a part of oversight committees on the agency.
And I said none of that nor do I believe any of it, so is it safe to say you’re having a big fat juicy straw-man with the rest of your comment and I can skip it?
Is it also safe to say the implied attack on me that I love either that or Hitler is a pretty ridiculous way to enter this thread?
I don’t know if this is a reading comprehension issue, a logic issue, or you’re just arguing in bad faith but I’m growing tired of your game.
That’s…
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…not a well-formed stance.
If i were in a room with both of them I’d shoot one (either) in the gut and then shoot myself so thag I wouldn’t have to suffer through being around the other.
Marx is definitely not as bad as Hitler. What are you two on about?