Meanwhile in a meeting room in Stockholm:
Remember how we reduced music piracy to an insignificant amount by making the legal choice convenient and relatively affordable? I forgot! So let’s torpedo our business.
If they want it to be a household plan, they should call it that instead of falsely advertising it as a family plan.
Exactly. Families are extremely varied in logistics and presentation… Businesses in their ivory towers imagine a stereotypical nuclear family where everybody lives in the same house. Out of 5 families I personally know; only one fits that description.
spotify single-handedly increasing music piracy rates back to napster levels
There is a certain poetry to them recreating the problem they solved.
i just hope this means people will start buying music again. 1-10 dollars for an album containing 5-20 DRM free music files is probably better value in the long run than spotify’s subscription ever was. and with navidrome, mpd, and its clients, managing them was never easier; plus artists get way more of that profit. everyone wins.
Don’t forget the warmongering Spotify do. Their profits pays to create tech that’s aimed at killing you.
I cut them out and canceled my subscription when they gave rogan that contract, fuck spotify
This is why I deleted my account. Fuck spotify and its bloodthirsty ceo
Soulseek, people. Just pirate things and send money directly to artists (or buy merch). Fuck all these streaming companies
I have 8k albums in my personal collection, but I’ve been building it for years, most everything is pirated or shared between friends or purchased on bandcamp. I stream it while via plexamp when I’m working or not at home, it’s very nice.
I can also connect to my friends Plex servers. My one friend has 35k albums.
in case someone doesn’t believe me hahaEdit: damn he’s up to 39k
My recommendation: https://mornye.com/
Supports multiple music services, use whichever service you want to find music, rip metadata from whichever has the most complete, then rip the music from whichever has the highest quality (yes, FLAC). Drop your spotify playlist and it will download all of it. The sublime embedding of lyrics and ReplayGain tags. My god, it even has a builtin player and library management, available on mobile and desktop.
Cool app! No idea how to get my Spotify account to work on it but was able to get web access set up after a bit of searching.
Yeah, they made it a bit obfuscated after the predecessor got taken out for coming with batteries included. After adding the extensions you can set the spotify extension for search and Qobuz, Deezer for download.
Go to the search tab, paste in your spotify playlist link and it will pull everything in and then you can download.
And of course, this happens at the same time as they’re announcing a price increase
If you’re going to pay for music, buy it DRM free on bandcamp etc, or CDs and rip them, you can make multiple copies and anyone in your family can play them at any time. Shitify is a joke.
https://thegrimejournalist.bandcamp.com/track/bandcamp-feat-jammz The bandcamp anthem!
‘Burn baby burn’ is possibly the most appropriate song for them
Using a different music service is so easy. You can’t even use the excuse that your friends are all on there. Stop giving them your money.
If they do this to me, I have zero reason to stay with them. My ex pays for it. If they kick me off because my physical address is no longer the same, I won’t use them. I’m sure he will stop paying for the daily plan and go back to free or, use a different app altogether. Good luck spotify. Did you learn nothing from Netflix?
Netflix actually ended up with an increase in subscribers from their crackdown. Maybe Spotify did learn from Netflix.
Netflix tweeted in March of 2017 that “Love is sharing a password” before launching its own enforcement policies in May of 2023. Later that year, Netflix raised prices up to 17 percent, and by April of 2024, the company saw the policy pay off with 9.3 million added subscriptions and a 54 percent bump in operating income.
Their stock is down 40% YoY and they are cutting thousands of staff including their director of content. Looks like it bought them 24 months of bluster and then their watchtimes plumetted.
There’s no reason to believe that that’s related to the family plan enforcement, so it’s really not relevant to this discussion
It is relevant to the stock price discussion, which was the dfense of the family plan enforecement.
The metric of interest in the context is the effects on churn/subscriber conversion, in which Netflix significantly overperformed following the enforcement of family plan rules.
And has since underperformed. Their watch times have not followed their subscriptions and investors are concerned.
So the enforcement resulting in more subscribers could be seen as short lived given the results for netflix.
A drop in consumption could be equally well explained by lacking content quality, leading to disinterest in consumption.
Arguably better explained, given that they laid off the director of content.
capitalism machine prioritizing short term over everything else, working as intended.
Wow I missed that part, thank you.
No, they didn’t. Please, let’s not interrupt… I want them to torch their subscriber numbers
Or Joe Rogan?
“analysts are confident that music streaming services such as Spotify can enforce strict account policies, raise prices, and still make more money.”
They looked at Netflix and Disney and they are right. This is a no brainer if you’re a business. There’s literally no downside other than angry comments online.
Normies are getting into Stremio and normies will eventually get into a music pirating app if this continues.
What is this Stremio you speak so freely of?
Stremio + torrentio + real debrid into your favorite search engine or ai and you will find the way.
Iptv is another option but it’s a bit less user friendly on getting an account.
Stremio is basically Netflix if it had any movie or show you could ever dream of once set up correctly.
Thank you. I was asking for a friend and they are very happy now.
Ever go on old drug forums where everyone led with “SWIM” lol
whats a good way to find new music based on a curated library/playlist/settings? i’m on apple for now but yeah… this has always been rough finding new tunes or artists.
Bandcamp radio. Every other day a show for each major genre: hip hop, indie, electronic, metal, experimental, jazz. Every two weeks? best of music overall with bandcamp selects. Lots of good stuff. Fun insightful interviews. Made by humans for humans.
Pitchfork. Articles about new music. Tons of recommendations for every genre, from Olivio Rodriga (an obscure artist) to Olivia Rodrigo.
There’s Tidal, which is what I’m planning on moving to once Spotify kicks me off
I haven’t used it in a while since I don’t have an active account there, but I really liked the randomizer in Deezer. It always showed me interesting songs that I hadn’t heard before.
Deezer is also pretty lenient with its family plan so far. However so is YouTube. YouTube family, which includes YouTube music, isn’t even excessively expensive if you actually share it between 6 people.
TIL that there are dozens of websites to find strangers to put on their own family plan to get some extra cash, meanwhile they will manage the payments
I wouldn’t have imagined that there would be that many.
Paying a third party service to get into a stranger’s family plan is against the ToS, so at that point, if you’re willing to go against the ToS you can do it for free
And people have scoffed at me for buying individual songs on iTunes instead of just jumping in bed with Spotify…
No matter how bad my financial situation becomes, as long as I can still charge my iPhone I will have access to not only my full music library, ad free, I also have access to the 50+ audio books I have bought on Apple Books completely ad free.
I just need a way to download the audio books without DRM and save them on my home server to feel fully at ease.
You know what would be better? Have the audio files, in
flac, or at least high-resmp3to listen whenever you want, from any device you want, without the need of an Apple account.Which is why I have downloaded my music from iTunes as normal non-DRM files.
