• tigerhawkvok@startrek.website
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    6 days ago

    Even given there’s 0% chance of conviction, impeachment is a political process. It’s important to announce where one stands, and what’s ok and what isn’t.

    Also, why are Democrats incapable of recognizing that performative red meat to the base drives turnout and engagement? How much mileage and therefore actual votes did “Benghazi” and “repeal Obamacare” get?

    That shit MATTERS.

  • KindnessisPunk@piefed.ca
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    7 days ago

    This is a really misleading headline. To be frank, what she actually said was she doesn’t think they have the resources to properly entertain an impeachment and that they should spend their limited resources on accountability and investigations, something they had the resources to entertain.

    I’m no fan of Harris, but let’s actually be accurate.

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    8 days ago

    “Just because we have limited resources, and I think the energy and the resources need to be put into accountability, need to be put into investigations.”

    Limited resources? They don’t have limited resources for fucking ICE.

    Harris, along with every other past President and Vice President need to shut the fuck up.

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      8 days ago

      They had four years to investigate Trump for January 6th and get accountability and didn’t. Now is not the time to be dialing down the heat.

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        They were getting close but then the American voters decided to acquit Trump by voting him in as president again.

        Anyone who doesn’t understand that four years isn’t shit when it comes to the most complicated legal case ever in the history of America has to look into it a bit and realize they don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about.

  • mkwt@lemmy.world
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    Impeach Trump for the high crimes and misdemeanors of raping children. Make him defend that shit in a public trial. Make John Roberts watch that. Make the senators vote to acquit on that shit.

    Ain’t no statute of limitations on impeachment.

    And I reckon if there’s a dem majority they can vote to hear witnesses on the floor of the senate.

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    8 days ago

    Not investigating and prosecuting Trump and his criminal appointees is not acceptable. Only prosecuting Trump and his criminal employees and ignoring everyday crises like healthcare and cost of living and wage disparity is also not acceptable.

    This is the problem with old-school Democrats like Harris. They don’t understand that we expect them to walk and chew bubble gum at the same time.

    They are adults, ostensibly smart, and there will be roughly 300 of them in both houses of Congress if the polls pan out. The only successful path is to organize themselves and get it all done. It’s a false dichotomy to say you can only do one or the other.

    Your job, Dems, is to repair the dam that has multiple huge leaks. If you seal one hole and the other is left open, the town below still floods. You fix them all or the dam breaks. Yes, it’s unfair. No, there is no other option.

  • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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    Please, for the love of democracy, read the fucking article and not just the headline. Learn how impeachment works and why it will not work to remove Trump. Learn what politicians can ACTUALLY accomplish and set your fucking expectations accordingly.

    Wanting things does not make them happen. I want a pony and a sports car. It doesn’t matter how strongly I want those things, wanting doesn’t do shit. If I’m a kid, wanting those things doesn’t enable my parents to be able to obtain them.

    The main problem I have with people not fucking learning this stuff is that it leads to becoming suscepitble to fascist propaganda. “Both sides” because it seems like nobody can fix the problem. Vote third party because you don’t like a few things some of the Democrats are doing. Don’t bother to vote at all because who cares. All of that only serves to strengthen the fascist hold on this country.

    Tired of the Democrats? Well, what are you doing about it? Are you just voting in the general election and bitching that your choices aren’t better? Try supporting better candidates in the primaries. Try to help educate people about what’s actually going on where you can do so. Or, if that doesn’t work, we need everyone to get out there and… force a change. Which will suck in its own way, and is more work than just “throw them all out!” because you ahve to have people and policies and systems set up to replace them if that’s how things go.

    The laziest fucking thing is to just browse the headline and griping about things you don’t even understand.

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      I DID read it and her reasoning is shit.

      Here’s her first statement: "Just because we have limited resources, and I think the energy and the resources need to be put into accountability, need to be put into investigations.”

      Here’s her second point: “I think after the election, we all have to just also agree that our attitude has to be to get stuff done.”

      Not good enough for me.

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          First, maybe they get a removal. Second, it would send a message. Third, since he likes to brag so much about how great he is, he can now take a new honor. But mostly the second one because he has committed so many crimes, there need to be consequences. Just add his to the list of many others that need to be impeached.

          • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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            First, maybe they get a removal.

            No.

            Second, it would send a message.

            I see so many complaints about how the Democrats are sending a sternly worded letter. Sounds like you want another sternly worded letter.

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              Yeah, you’re probably right. It’s highly unlikely they will get enough support to successfully impeach him, but unlike Harris and you I believe they can do more than one thing at a time and I say, “why not.” It’s the right thing to do given all of the laws he’s broken.

              • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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                5 days ago

                I think our disagreement on the whole thing is relatively minor, frankly. I’m fine with him being impeached, it’s just not worth the time to do to imho. I think that steals some energy from other things, but I don’t think it would prevent other things.

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    7 days ago

    I wish she would shut up and go away.

    Telling us not to push back against this ghoul and the rest of the Epstein class is fucking insane.

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      I agree with you, but this is not what she’s saying. The article title is misleading. What she’s actually saying is she doesn’t think the Democrats have the resources to do anything with an impeachment hearing right now and that Republicans would stonewall so they should spend their limited time and resources on investigations and accountability.