“We’re seeing a war against trans individuals being waged by our federal government, and we, as citizens, need to be willing to step up and say this is not OK,” Kluwe said. “The Democratic Party has taken a very defensive posture on trans issues when that’s the absolute wrong thing to do. You don’t make a bully go away by cowering in the corner and say, I’ll agree with you on these little things. That just encourages the bully.
“We need to be full-throated in the attack, saying these are people who pay taxes, who serve in our military, and who are entitled to the exact same rights that every single other American is entitled to, which includes health care and the opportunity to live a prosperous life. We can’t be afraid of the right-wing fear machine. We have to take it to them, show that we’re willing to fight.”
Because bigotry and hate always get dressed up in ways that feel reasonable. Pick any hateful position of the last hundred years, and we can find both the gentleel start and the naked abuse at its end.
Like what?
The most recent Dem to make a transphobic splash is Josh Turek, nomineee for Senator from Iowa. I’ll grab a paragraph and highlight the offensive part, just in case you don’t see it.
https://www.advocate.com/politics/national/iowa-josh-turek-transgender-ad
Turek made a splash just before this with a clip that talked about Christian love for trans folk. And then he went on to misgender every trans femm athlete, diminish every cis femm athlete, and promise to deny all trans-gender affirming care for any government employee, senior citizen, disabled person, or person living in poverty.
I’ll presume that you don’t think this is “reasonable.”. But way too often people who express mildly transphobic views like “I don’t want social-only trans girls playing sports!” have equally odious prejudice that they’re just hiding.
You might be right while also being wrong that some of these issues are about bigotry and hate.
I would not have used his quote as something that was reasonable. Calling a trans woman a male is an easy way to show you’re a piece of shit.
Is there a practical difference between the Nazi who cheers as you’re put into a death train and the liberal who stands there with a frown?
Or, to have a more reasonable discussion, can you point to who you think expressed a reasonable position trans voters are unreasonably upset at?
I guess because some democrats think trans women shouldn’t play women sports, they’re basically the same as Hitler. lol.
No, they’re the Germans who stood by and did nothing.
And while most transphobic bigots are less terrible than Hitler,.I’m not sure how bad the prejudice had to be before we’re allowed to care.
I know. It’s still a very stupid comparison. “I can’t play on the team that I want to play on, I’m just like the Jewish people in the holocaust!” That’s how this reads.
I don’t disagree that there are a lot of transphobic bigots in this world, and they genuinely want trans people to be miserable. But my entire point is, you will label somebody a transphobic bigot when they are actually incredibly supportive of trans people in most ways, but just have a difference of opinion on very few issues.
Also:
It’s not can’t play on the team I want, it’s can’t play at all and am publicly identified as other.
Objecting to this as trivial is like arguing that forcing gays to wear pink triangles or jews to wear yellow stars of david was reasonable and not a prelude to the extermination camps
I don’t even know where this is coming from. Even the people referring to trans women as boys (who are bigots), are not saying trans people can’t play at all. You’re making this up.
And publicly identified as “other”? I’ve never head this. But it sounds made up as well. Certainly not something supported by people on the left.
They’re not saying it only because they’re ignorant morons who can’t think through what they’re saying. Do you really think a teenage AMAB who realized they were.trans would actually be allowed to play on the boys after asking to play with the girls?
Do you at all understand what puberty blockers and HRT do to humans? Did you know that trans girls and trans women have been playing sports post-HRT for decades and the number of sports in which they went from middling to top tier is zero?
I’m sure you’re ignorant enough to not know it, but a bunch of trans people are closeted about not being cis. Not just those with no medical transition who “go stealth” and hide their gender as if it was something to be ashamed of, but also those for whom HRT was extremely effective who pass as their actual gender for anything but a very close medical inspection.
They do so partly because it’s none of nobody else’s business, and partly because being open about being trans lets transphobic bigots who are far worse than your wilful ignorance identify them as targets for harassment, slander, and assault.
You keep saying this and yet have never produced an example.
Which is either because you personally are mildly transphobic, or you went looking and can’t find any candidate who was both accused of transphobia and not confirmed as such on closed inspection.
I’ll take this deflection as an admission that your nazi point was stupid.
Look, I shard articles yesterday from a different comment where people have been very supportive of trans people, but disagree on the issue of sports, and they have been labeled transphobic for it. It’s no worth copying and pasting cause you and I probably disagree on what constitutes a transphobic bigot, so what’s the point?
There’s a whole separate comment responding to that. I split them because your quibbling as to how much hate is tolerable isn’t a productive discussion.
Who? Where? What comment?
Let me see if I can find this alleged comment of yours…