White people in America are not told to go back to where they came from, but if you like I can get you an oppression Olympics award, the white people here love those.
If someone comes from a place like that, why would they even want to be in usa? “Go back to where you came from” would be a welcoming invitation. Not sure why they ever left.
I read about this xenophobic comment being said to Native Americans too, mistaking them for Mexicans, and even if Mexican, I live in California…
Kanton eh? Ya damned Chinese commie!!1!
UNLIMITED… POWAAAAAAHHHHH
Not from there, but once in a while I duckduckgo North Iran to remind myself.
Well sure, NOW Ireland is super nice.
Kanton Zug? That some sort of Chinorcish slang?
It’s right next to Kanton Dabu
This is kinda excessively insulting and ignorant.
All my ancestors came to the US as poor white trash. The Irish ones were being actively starved.
Switzerland is like 80% ethnic “Swiss” and the rest of it is Italian, French, and German.
Honestly, to an American, European ethnic uniformity is bizarre. You’re so white and seem to think because you have Othello, you’re diverse.
An American saying he has never been to Europe, without saying he has never been to Europe.
Barely 2/3 of the population of Zürich is even born in Switzerland. It is true however that most of the immigration is from the EU. But Zürich (and Switzerland in general) is rather the outlier here. Big European cities tend to be anything but ethnically homogenous, certainly not in Western Europe. What is however true is that Europeans don’t tend to think in skin colours but ethnic backgrounds, at least those who aren’t Nazis.
That last sentence is either wildly untrue or there are far more actual Nazis in Europe than Europeans are willing to acknowledge.
There are a lot of Nazis indeed.
Doesn’t Switzerland have a blackface festival, or is that Sweden?
David Sedaris has an interesting monologue about this.
It’s called 6 to 8 black men. Definitely worth a listen. That one is about the Dutch.
Americans tend to assume that any instance of a white person painting their face black is horrendous because their only cultural anchor for it is their horrendously racist minstrel shows and then get confused when people in other countries don’t follow suit.
I love when you guys try to hide your bigotry behind “culture”.
Hey guys, the continent with several countries that plundered Africa for hundreds of years and invented the trans Atlantic slave trade has never had a problem with racism.
Okay, but if Zwarte Piet is just supposed to be covered in coal then why did they also give him giant red lips?
It’s a little bit disingenuous to imply that Americans doing blackface is racist, but European blackface is innocent and traditional. It’s not like the Dutch had never seen a black person when Zwarte Piet was created…
As far as I understand, Zwarte Piet started out as a depiction of a black person. But it wasn’t used, like minstrel shows were, to push hateful and limiting stereotypes of black people.
I don’t think every American doing blackface must have been racist, but I think that given the cultural context in America, doing so will justifiably cause such massive offence that it can’t really be defended.
yeah this still just sounds like “it’s only racist when americans do it,” because yeesh, that explanation of where it came from isn’t helping your case.
I didn’t give an explanation so I don’t really understand
Idk about that one, chief.
Also, the reaction to something isn’t what makes it racist. It’s the content.
Uh, are they literally depicting a minstrel-show black man kidnapping a white woman?
Euro racism denial is like those confederate losers who say it’s “just about heritage.” Or WWII collectors who seem to ONLY gravitate toward third reich shit. It’s such a naked “well, technically…”
Where’s the hate/limitation I spoke of? Or I’m not sure what you’re trying to say.
I also specifically didn’t say that the reaction makes something racist; rather I said it can make it indefensible. I feel like we’re not communicating well here.
Americans tend to assume that any instance of a white person painting their face black is horrendous
That implies that the instance we’re talking about, in this case Zwarte Piet, is not horrendous. See above image. The caricature shown is often present in historical American minstrel shows, yes, but its separation from the minstrel show does not place it in a vacuum that makes it not racist. It’s still a dehumanizing caricature of a black person, and goes far past the realm of Lawrence Olivier in Othello. I believe that is about as clear of an explanation of this scenario that I can give from my perspective.
I mean, the UK had televised blackface into the 70s, so that’s not entirely accurate.
I don’t mean to say that all other blackface is innocent, that being a perfect counterexample.
It’s always done to mock and dehumanize which is the first stage of all persecution.
Always? I mean, there are a lot of different applications, maybe some of them are more innocent and we just don’t know enough about them. I always recoil when I see something like that too, being quick to judge rarely works out in my favor.
Yeah we did. The helper of Santa claus called schmutzli (wich translates roughly to dirty) goes around town to beat up children. But that was back in the day.
Black Pete better known as Zwarte Piet is Dutch in origin
But it did become a culture war issue in Germany, right?
must be a culture war issue in
SwitzerlandSwedenNetherlandsGermany
I was wrong, it was Netherlands. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/black-pete-christmas-zwarte-piet-dutch
Huh? The Swiss are Italian, French, German and Romansch speakers. They are also divided along Protestant and Catholic lines. Switzerland is far more diverse and divided than people care to realise. They even had a civil war because of this. What made them live in harmony altogether is because of the agreed power sharing after the conflict. Iirc, the governing parties must represent the four linguistic groups.
This was my understanding, uniting in the first place wasn’t easy if I’m remembering right.
Lol. “Diverse”.
“They are all white therefore they are not diverse”- average North Americans
Lol. This has got to be a troll.
North America has every group that is present in Europe, and plenty that are not at all present in Europe.
Plus wave after wave of European immigrants that settled in geographically diverse areas and interacted differently with the environment and the other people that came there since the beginning of colonialism.
They changed way more than France and Germany (or whatever you think is “diversity”) in the same amount of time. Way more cultural exchange and adaptation.
The Italian Americans that settled in Chicago and New York are very different from each other. The Germans that settled in Chicago and Texas are very different from each other.
We also have groups that you don’t have at all.
First, brown people. You have like 5. That’s the Othello reference. You preferred white people only, so I’ll continue with white people only (which makes me gag).
Mormons. Amish. Mennonites. I dunno, just country bumpkins. Pentecostals. So many.
I’m running out of white people. I just can’t help but think that brown people are really important here.
No Mexicans in that list i see…
80% ethnic Swiss Schenkelklopfer🤣👍🏻
Wait you’re loaded??!
Yeah I think her dad is/was a Swiss diplomat or something like that?
Last I recall from Violet lore, her dad is a big deal TV producer that does a lot of cocaine. She was raised by her nanny mostly, a woman named Greta Shaw. I also might be getting confused with the plot to a Stephen King novel.
My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink, he would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Some times he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy, the sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament.
who and/or what is Violet?
Violet is a renowned lemmy hornyposter whose wealthy daddy provided her with two bodyguards for her worldwanderings before eventually being persuaded after much pleading on her part to let them bang her because she was driven mad with lust by their sweatiness and forbiddenness.
Last I heard she was living with a father and son who she had persuaded to both bang her, partly, she believes, because of all the money she lavishes on them.
Apparently the dad’s dick is noticeably bigger but the son has more energy and she gets off on the fact that she’s banging them both.
Every so often she deletes her account but also every so often she makes a new one to hornypost some more.
You must be new here.
That useless bit at the edge of a rainbow
I also might be getting confused with the plot to a Stephen King novel.
You say true, I say thankee.
Off with their head!
If it’s so great why didn’t you stay there?
Oh you enjoy travel and are able to go where you please?
That’s cool, thanks for the content.
But how far back do they mean, like where i was born, where my family lineage started or my mothers vagina?
That would be hard for me since she’s cremated
Life begins at contraception
Yeah they never specify, do they? That’s why I always stay right where I am, otherwise I’d need clear instructions
If life begins at conception, then is where you are from wherever that occurred?
BACK TO THE BALLS
Does that mean that I’m from a bathroom at all van halen concert, or from the specific concert venue bathroom?
Useless - the American would never figure out how to spell that
Directly near railways? No thank you. Also way too crowded. What kind of brag is that supposed to be? Just because something might be expensive (haven’t even checked) doesn’t mean it’s great…
