“She goes, ‘I have constitutional rights.’ The arrogance,” Trump said at a rally in Texas.
  • Eternal192@anarchist.nexusEnglish
    13·
    5 days ago

    Isn’t he “technically” an immigrant child? His grandfather was German, right? Soo by Trump logic he himself doesn’t have rights.

  • dhork@lemmy.worldEnglish
    16·
    5 days ago

    This is not a new idea in Conservative circles. I remember having debates wih people 30 years ago, who voted for goobers like Bob Dole, George Pataki and Al D’Amato, who insisted that the rights in the Bill of Rights only applied to citizens, and foreigners in our country had no rights whatsoever.

    And since Trump has decided that Omar’s citizenship application is fraudulent, in his mind she never was a citizen, so is subject to the same treatment.

    You see? It makes total sense, if you’re a xenophobic moron!

    • Kirp123@lemmy.world
      4·
      5 days ago

      "The right of the people to be… "

      “No person shall be held to answer…”

      “In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall…”

      And so on.

      I don’t see a single mention of citizen in there, only the people, person, the accused which are words that can refer to anyone citizen or not.

    • Nollij@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      2·
      5 days ago

      The idea of non-citizens having different rights (not none, but a very different set) is pretty well-established. But the courts have also long upheld that it’s all or nothing. Once you become a citizen, you have all of those rights. If you renounce, you lose them all. There is very little wiggle room on the subject.

      Trump decided she wasn’t a citizen long before there was any question of fraud. That happened the moment she refused to kneel to him. The rest is just about how he can reach his goal of destroying anyone that would challenge him.

      • peopleproblems@lemmy.world
        2·
        5 days ago

        Unfortunately. The Heritage Foundation goes back to at least the early 1800s, but thats where things get murky. A direct line of people can connect Trump to Anthony Comstock.

        Trump -> Roy Cohn -> Joseph McCarthy -> J. Edgar Hoover -> Anthony Comstock (although I can’t seem to figure out if Hoover and Comstock ever actually met).

      • faythofdragons@piefed.socialEnglish
        1·
        5 days ago

        Don’t wait, there’s more! Dotage is a related term for the time period of being a dotard. I worked in elder care, and we’d often use “They’re entering their dotage” as a polite way to say “they’re going senile”.

  • Blibly@lemmy.world
    5·
    5 days ago

    I suggest Trump is a traitor and seditionist and should receive a just punishment as laid out in the Constitution.

  • mkwt@lemmy.world
    3·
    5 days ago

    If there is any class or category of people who have no rights, then no one has any rights.

    Because the government can just disappear full citizens into the no-rights category, and there is no right to challenge the designation.

  • xxce2AAb@feddit.dk
    2·
    5 days ago

    Well, to be fair, he doesn’t think any other American citizen has constitutional rights either.

    • ElDuderino@lemmus.orgEnglish
      3·
      5 days ago

      It really baffles fascists to learn that the constitution has never just protected citizens.