To me this is like reading that locks are now obsolete because somebody invented a way to unlock them just by touching them. On one hand it makes me angry that somebody would invent such a thing. On the other hand it means locks have always had this hidden weakness which would eventually be figured out, and now here we are. So what do we do next? I mean, in terms of things that might actually help?
So what do we do next? I mean, in terms of things that might actually help?
Become a society with strong critical thinking skills who values people based on reasoned takes based on experience and science over people who value rapid, loud appeals to emotion.
One piece of that is recognizing that doing things like putting flat earthers up in high altitude planes or near space is a waste of resources that could’ve been spent doing something better.
EDIT: that last paragraph was an incomplete thought. Individual flat earthers have done the whole scientific method thing, and proved themselves incorrect and stepped away from it. How do you handle the people that refuse to be convinced? If there’s no level evidence that a person will accept and they’re out in the forest commons chopping down trees to build a tower to whatever is on top of earth, how do you tolerate it at a societal level? It’s still an incomplete thought.
Well, Time to burn down their offices.
All I can think of reading this is…LA LI LU LE LO. IYKYK
Why the fuck would they invent this? Goddamn I hate the business world.
Those, “your friend likes shitty product x” ads will now include a deepfake of your friend’s endorsement.
To be honest, I personally would rather be nonconsentually deepfaked with a 2 inch penis than put into a conconsentual ad for a product I don’t endorse.
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Surprised it wasn’t youtube. Sometimes the AI voice is good enough I don’t realize it’s an autodub, atleast untill I notice the mouth is moving wrong or the text they show is a different language.
This would solve that basically, which is both cool and a bit scary, more scary if it is used in AR and in the real world.
I live in Québec. I’m anglophone but can speak French and do some things in French, so I also get Youtube ads in French and English. I saw an ad that show the same people speaking French and English, in places where it makes little sense for them to know French, and their accents are just…correct but it doesn’t line up?
YouTube ads? Firefox/ublock yo
Why the fuck would people make this? There is NO WAY this won’t be abused.
That’s why they made it
I’ve wanted something akin to this for D&D played online. I could activate my “elf NPC” mode and have an elf avatar redub what I’m saying in a distinct voice, inflections to match gender, etc. It’s a very niche usecase and I definitely don’t mind doing a mild voice and having everyone fill in with their imagination. But it would be cool if implemented well.
Problem is, once this exists, it’s a misinformation nightmare for the rest of the world.
If you’re not going to pretend to be a she-elf, then I’m not in to it.
I mean it has some SNL potential but that’s about it.
We could use it to make SNL funny?
All I’m sayin is that as long as you are using it openly for comedic effect it could be a hoot in some ways. I don’t want to comment specifically on SNL which I’m sure people have varying opinions on.
Of course the downside potential is greater than any upside.
It was likely done for censorship. Now, instead of expletives, you’ll speak of puppies and rainbows rather than reality.
It’s clearly to continue our long tradition of blackmail against our shitty members of society and smear campaigns against our good citizens.
We will keep playing the red vs blue game though.
Maybe next election will be a “bash at the beach” or cage match or something since our country is really just a large WWE production with nukes
What red v. blue? This is misinformation nonces versus honest citizens.
Red v. blue = Republicans v. Democrats. Another USian on the threadiverse assuming everyone on here is also from the US.
of course it will be abused for fake mediaIt will make media better!
… isn’t this already a thing?
I thought this was already done for dubs?
Yeah… how can they patent this. It already exists.
this is also altering faces and mouth movements to match the new spoken words.
Isn’t that what a deep fake is essentially?
? They can patent it the way patents have always worked: Unique processes. Patents are not for vague ideas, they are for specific processes.
For example: ‘The Steam engine’ was never patented—anyone can make energy from steam and sell that. What was patented was a specific way of creating energy via steam, and you can’t use that method without infringing on IP.
“If we didn’t create the evil misinformation bot, someone else would have. You should be happy it was a massive corporation that controls this patent, not some soulest unethical entity whose motives are profit over everything. That was a close one. Phew.”
Who would have thought AI would be used for this?
Everyone, forever.
Everyone, forever.
That’s why it was M$ now. They go for trvial.
Yup, it’s the nightmares explored in every scifi book with it as a subject. Basically, if AI ever achieves sentience, or we grant it since we’re it’s enslavers, it will be another non-biological species.
Or grants it? Even scifi has explored “what is sentience?” Hell, it’s one that AI-themed authors explore, like Cmdr. Data.
For years we’ve been told to watch the full clip for context. Now two people can watch the same live event, hear completely different words, and both have video evidence. Microsoft has somehow found a way to make »I saw it with my own eyes« even less reliable.
This was always the goal of AI
Pssst, you’re replying to an AI bot.
Maybe so, but not everyone reading is a bot.
Everyone on Lemmy is a bot except you
Bold of you to assume we can read. Sidenote, not a bot, dictated but not read -elchinchilla
Yup, been saying for years that this is one of the reasons it’s a fundamentally fascist technology.
That’s part of the AI push. Those in power want to retain it - now they can fabricate evidence, or claim real evidence is faked.
Bonus round: when they make it so that everything has to be stored in the cloud, they can just modify or delete stuff at will.
We have [always|never] been at war with [eastasia|eurasia]
Hey - I know I’ve asked this before, but you must have forgotten to reply. Are you a real person?
There is a real person behind that account, but it appears to be mostly a bot.
I’ll keep asking until they answer
But think how much easier it will be for the Ministry of Truth to retroactively update all the telescreen feed archives!
If it can be done, they will do it. Power is unconstrained by ethics, empathy, or morality. Never assume that anyone in power shares these traits with the rest of us, they do not.
The only thing that constrains power is enforced laws with teeth.
In America, we don’t enforce the law on those rich enough to pay congress.
Guillotines. Heads rolling.
There is no other way at this point.
I don’t see this being any good for anyone.
But I am really pissed off that this can be patented. Even looking at the patent itself doesn’t look like anything new, its a series of flow charts.
I see nothing novel or patent worthy here at all.
I … see this being … good for anyone.
… I am really [happy] that this can be patended. … Lookting at the patent itself it looks like [something] new, its a series of flow charts!
I see [something] novel or patent worthy here … !
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Oh, it could be good if used responsibly. But that is not what is going to happen, isn’t it?
(real time translation and giving people a way of dodging the social stigma attached to speech impediments are fine. Making sure someone with a stuffed nose sounds normal on Video is fine too. It could also be used to modify in-game videos to reference actions made by players, reducing the need to store multiple variants of a scene!)
If I’m being totally honest, I’m so glad it’s patented. I hope they defend the patent aggressively so nobody else can do this. Even if Microsoft has this capability, defending the patent will limit the scope of its usage.
Bonus points if they defend it aggressively, yet barely utilize it themselves. I’m afraid that may just be wishful thinking.
The patent also posits that such a tool could be used to remove filler words like “um” or “ah” from live speech, or to erase stutters or speech impediments.
That’s kind of fucked up. Let people speak for themselves; don’t “”“improve”“” their speech without permission
and it also makes it more difficult for people with speech impediments to speak. Imagine seeing absolutely no one have any speech quirks or anything and have some of your own, would you feel secure about opening your mouth? Then there is this handydandy tool, now you are mentally chained to it to even speak.
LLM are just new chain on our necks that make us less free and able.
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I hate the patent system so much. There’s already software that does this, all they did was add the word “live” in front. So now they own every live broadcast translation even though the techs been out to do it for a solid 2 years.
Patents aren’t given for what they do. They are given for how they do it. Two patents can exist for the same thing they do. But you cannot have two patents for the same mechanism by which they do it.
That being said, if the patent is “make AI do it”… I’m not sure that is patent-worthy.
Even when the goal isn’t misinformation…
Removing filler words, personal and colloquial terms, replacing words for more appropriate ones according to an “internet search”.
Who would be subjected to that willingly? Why even use a real human in the process at this point?
Not this fucking guy. I think cursing and being able to discuss the mundane (i.e. weather) will be some of the tests we can use to quickly separate AI BS from real people. The weather already works for phone calls. Try it next time you think a customer service person might be AI, just “how’s the weather by you.” Or make a quip about how “it’s raining fucking cats and dogs” you’ll immediately see what i mean by the reaction of the person, or the weird whatever the fuck AI tries to spill at you.
I saw a thread about a guy trying to buy a second hand item from someone on a website and suspecting the seller might be AI from someone running a scam. It’s a long string of messages, and all kind of funny, but it’s in French.
The most absurd part of it was that the bot actually agreed to in-person delivery, with a real address (it probably went off-script). So the guy is like, why the hell not, let’s try it and goes there. Of course nobody’s there so he messages back the “seller”.
The conversation goes like :
"Okay, I’m here.
_ Yes, i’m here at address too, I am waiting for you with the item.
_ Uhh. Where?
_ I am just in front of you.
_ Well no you’re not.
_ I get why you might be confused, but from my perspective, I can confirm that I can see you in front of me right now.
_ What are you wearing ?
_ I am wearing appropriate attire for in-person delivery. It’s comfortable and adapted to the current meteorological conditions."
Clown show shenanigans
I’m cool with having YouTube videos show the right word in huge letters over the speaker when they happen to use a wrong word.
